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Reviewer: Paul
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I received a XISICO XS28 today from Mike Melick. I�ll start out by saying he gave this one his OEM tune, including his added trigger screw mod and barrel recrowning.

Mike sent it double boxed and it arrived in 5 days in excellent condition. At first glance, with the rifle still in the box, I was somewhat worried. The rifle just didn�t look so sharp. However, once I got it out of the box and wiped down and detailed with some cleaning and oiling, I am thoroughly impressed. This is what folks like to call a cheap Chinese clone, and a Mike Melick tuned XS28 does its best to turn the term into a badge of pride.

The 28 is long, and heavy, and just feels like a nice solid air gun. The Chinese may not be using the finest wood, but they certainly seem to know how to find an attractive grain even if they usually bury it in stain. This one is finished very nicely, and a quick oiling and rubdown really made it impressive. The checkering appears to be cut rather than pressed, and I will be honest and say it�s not a fine precision job like an RWS. However, it is decent, and a little attention to detail later should really smooth things out nicely. Other than that, the lines are straight, no obvious filler, and the stock gives a comfortable grip.

I�m not a fan of the sights. I am stuck with em for a bit as I�ll talk about later. They work well, but those of us in need of glasses won�t get much use out of em. They work well though as far as my eyes will allow, and in truth, I managed some 50 yard shots on my 2�x2� spinners and connected. A spray paint can at 50 yrds was no problem at all.

Mikes tune probably saved me a lot of hassle. This gun literally came out of the box ready to shoot. Everything tight, screws treated with locktite, and a sweet trigger. Mikes trigger work is A+. Not having really modified any of my triggers beyond some minor reworking, I was unprepared for a truly good trigger. This thing can�t have more than a pound of pull, and it breaks precisely and consistently.

The firing cycle is fast and clean. There is plenty of recoil, but Mike took care of any spring noise quite well, and it shoots with a solid and authoritive thump. This one will take me awhile to master due to the recoil, but I am liking it a great deal regardless. I detected no dieseling or smoke to suggest it.

This thing hits every bit as hard as the Hatsan 125 I had for a short while, if not harder. I use the same targets pretty much every day, and I am familiar with how quickly every rifle I have sends a pellet to them. This XS28 has em all beat hands down. 25 yards, and it is thump-bang!. That fast.

I am buying a chrony this weekend, and am anxious to run it through. Mike noted 800+fps with 14.3 grains, and I am certain it is doing it.

I took the scope of my Ruger and put it on the 28 for accuracy testing. Two things here.

1. The Ruger scope and mounts are woefully inadequate. After 20 shots, the 28 dang near threw the scope at me. After a hasty re-attachment, I made sure to retighten every ten shots. Despite this, accuracy with the scope was barely adequate.

2. The rifle is clearly still needing a break in period. Although it felt very good out of the box, there is still some stiffness and violence that won�t subside until things get a chance to mesh together. After 50 shots, it was clearly smoothing out nicely, and seemed to get faster. Again, time for a chrony.

I shot with the scope, and with open sights even though anything past 15 yards for me is blurry. As you can see in the pics, I put a spot of dark paint on the target for open sights, just so I have would have something I could aim into the center of.

All in all, I am more than happy with this Chinese clone and look forward to putting some good glass on it.

Awesome job Mike. Outstanding. Definitely one to go in the regular shooter rack.

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Chinese Qb79 AR2079A [ 177cal-600fps ]


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Reviewer: NEDan
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This is about the AR2078A as shown in the pic above.

Curiously it is often refered to as not a “true competition target rifle” yet It certainly looks the part and considering at 10-20 meters it hits where you shoot every time. So why isn’t it?

My opinion is,

After years of admiring, looking, reading pro’s and some criticisum I decided I had to have one. At $200.00 shipped it was not an easy decision yet at 1/3 the price of an entry level target gun it was…

In an attempt to stack the deck in my favor I bought mine tuned for acuracy and max shot count as I was not after speed. It was to do target practice period. 500+ fps would have been fine, it shoots 600+ fps. and I get aprox. 50 good shots per pair of c02 carts.

I purchased mine from a well known and respected tuner Mike Melick at Flying Dragon Air Rifles. I let him know my wants and needs. With his reputation preceeding him he did not dissapoint.

Out of the box it was clean lubed and my first impression was positive.

As expected Un-stained rough wood could be seen inside the elongated holes in the forestock btw. they’re designed for weight, I would address this the first time I removed the action.

I could imediately see where attention was given by Mike. The barrel end had been trued and the trigger was smooth yet hair sensitive.

A bit too sensitive for me as a matter of fact.

I wanted to try to adjust it to my liking. I found that this is not a match trigger by any means. It’s not a bad trigger but it’s not even a true two stage trigger which is a shame because it’s design allows it to be made to shoot at just a couple of pounds pull. You do get used to it but it’s one long pull is different and does make you want to lean more to a light hair as it makes it a bit more predictable..

For me length of pull was a little short. A easy fix.

Target sites were wonderful but lacked an english definition of up down, left and right. Again frustrating but you get used to this too.

It is fun to shoot after all. A pellet going where you want most of the time, is allways a great thing. It seems to like round head domes over match heads.

No I probably won’t be taking it to any competitive matches and that’s ok because I mostly compete with myself..

The more I shoot it, me and this gun continue to improve.

My concentration and technique are getting better and these are things that I really value.

I can now understand why it is considered not a true competition target gun. However the things I’ve had to do to it have not been that dificult and have improved the overall pleasure of shooting it.

I like it, I can recomend it, I won’t compete with it..Yet

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Chinese Qb79 AR2079A [ 177cal-600fps ]


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Reviewer: stop
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The Qb79 Target (not the QB79) is also known as AR2078a, comes with match style peep sights and stock. The trigger is adjustable. It can be filled one of the two way, by using 2 powerlets or to fill from a paintball with a one way valve. Mine came with the one way valve and the QD release plus hose, and all I needed was a ASA adapter and a bottle (both can be had cheap enough). I understand some of them don’t come with the extra fittings and cap so make sure before you buy one. If you shoot alot I recommend, go the paintball bottle way (you will get your money back in less than 2 tins of pellets worth of shooting).

OUT of the box, mine shot sub 1 inch groups at 30meters using a scope (the factory peep sights are a bit rough). No tuning/works whatsoever. But bear in mind the cheaper qb78 will shoot as good anyway for it is basically a qb78 with a better stock and a 15mm barrel (instead of 14).

I however did have some slight problems. The stock was way too short for the average adult, the trigger had to be set lighter (adjustable and the manual tells you how to) and the slight lack of power (about 7 ft/lbs). Many of us tune it to 12+ft/lbs but I do not recommend it for the average person as it involves a fair bit of work and the tank doesn’t hold that much gas so you only get some 25 30 shots.

All in all, it is a great value of money. But if you just want a accurate rifle and don’t care about the look and not using a scope (the cheek piece on the qb78 is too low for scopes), rather get a QB78 and save a few bucks…….

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Chinese Qb79 AR2079A [ 177cal-600fps ]


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Reviewer: j. easley
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I’ve owned this rifle for over a year and i am still amazed at its accuracy with any pellet i want to shoot with it. The quality of finish is great. the peep sight is great. it consistently outshoots my gamo cfx with a scope.